Re: [sc-users] sc-users is closing down

[i@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx]

This is really important! I’ve copied in Scott Carver, Josh Parmenter, and Brian Heim, who are all admins on the forum, just to make sure this is seen. 

Hi you three, apologies for not raising this on the forum itself, but as you can see below, mlang has some issues contributing there. Is there anything that can be done to improve accessibility for users with visual impairments? It would really be tragic if closing the lists meant visually impaired people were excluded to any extent.

mlang, thank you for raising this! I confess I had no idea this was an issue with discourse.

S.


> On 24 Jun 2021, at 14:21, mlang@xxxxxxxxxx wrote:
> 
> i@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx writes:
> 
>> Hi All,
>> 
>> As some of you will know from the discussions here, this list will be closing
>> down. We’re encouraging all users to join the forum at https://scsynth.org/
> 
> This is sad :-(
> 
> I refrained from commenting during the discussion, mostly because I no
> longer think the exceptional situation of a single person can influence
> current trends, and likely also because I was afraid of the grief I
> would be feeling just having to participate in such a discussion.
> 
> I see the trend since a few years.  Slack, Discorse, and of course web
> forumss.  All of these are pretty much excluding for me.
> I am blind.  And while I can use a modern web browser if I have to, the
> inherent inefficiencies and accessibility problems make it pretty much a
> no-fun experience.  Well-defined protocols like SMTP/IMAP made it easy for
> me to participate in a group like sc-users, because I was able to choose
> the client software I am able to use efficiently.
> 
> In this particular situation, it will lead to me going into read-only
> mode.  I will likely not contribute to scsynth.org simply because I am
> forced to go via the web.  I might be able to stay in lurking mode as
> long as the RSS interface works and the post pages stay clean enough to
> be consumed with a text browser.  But I am assuming even that is going
> to go away after a few years.  Well, such is life.
> 
> When I was young, I was hoping for computer accessibility to be an eye
> for the blind to the rest of the world.  After 25 years of surfing on
> the various waves of the Internet, I realize certain trends have
> actually done the contrary.  The list of things I know about and would want to
> take part in but can't because they are inherently inaccessible is
> growing on a daily basis.  At least at work I was able to crawl into my
> little corner of "command-line expert" and will maybe be able to hide
> there before I retire.  Maybe, we will see.
> 
> I know that this letter is not going to change things, and I dont expect
> that.  But I have to say this aloud: The way the internet is going is
> wrong. Pretending otherwise doesn't make it right.
> Open standards are replaced with proprietary web-based interfaces.
> And nobody seems to care.
> 
> Question is, how many years will it take until BLM could also mean
> "blind lives matter"?  Given the current trend, never.
> 
> It was a pleasure to read you all, kthxbye
> 
> -- 
> CYa,
>  ⡍⠁⠗⠊⠕
> 
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