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Hi Andrea,
It's here:
De: owner-sc-users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx <owner-sc-users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> em nome de valle@xxxxxxxxxxx <valle@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Enviado: quinta-feira, 10 de junho de 2021 07:34 Para: sc-users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx <sc-users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> Assunto: Re: [sc-users] Future of the lists Been here since 2003.
So many thanks Scott! (I have no idea where to go for SC forum :) but I'm on FB) best -a- On Wed, 2021-06-09 at 14:50 +0200, daniel-mayer@xxxxxxxx wrote: > All perfectly understandable, Scott. Thanks so much for your work ! > > Daniel > > > > > Am 09.06.2021 um 10:18 schrieb i@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx: > > > > I said I would let others discuss before expressing my view. There > > hasn’t been a massive response, and I’d say no clear consensus. So, > > here’s my 2 cents: > > > > Firstly, the dev list: As I said, I don’t think it serves much > > purpose any more, or at least not a unique one, so I think we > > should wind it up and convert the archive to static pages. > > > > The user list is more complicated. In general I’ve been happy to > > keep it going as long as there was demand, but the technical/GDPR > > issues do make me wonder if this is a good time to just wrap it up > > and encourage people to move to the forum, which has grown a lot as > > the list has gotten a little quieter. > > > > On a personal level, maintaining and moderating the lists is a not > > insignificant amount of work, and I don’t have as much time for > > that as I used to. It’s also not always a pleasant job, and while > > that’s perhaps not surprising given the nature of online > > communications, I sometimes wonder if I want to keep putting energy > > into that, especially in those occasional moments when it’s bad > > enough to impact my own wellbeing. > > > > So on balance and with some sadness, I personally think the best > > thing is to wind the lists up and encourage people to move to the > > forum. There has been some discussion about possibly hosting the > > forum here at the university, which would be a nice bit of > > continuity, and maybe help with stability as it’s currently > > privately funded. We’ll see what happens with that. > > > > I do feel a sense of responsibility to this community and the list > > members, so we can hold off on making a final determination for a > > day or two so people can respond, but that’s my feeling. > > > > Thanks, > > > > Scott > > > > > > > > > > > On 19 May 2021, at 17:09, i@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx wrote: > > > > > > Hi All, > > > > > > I’m afraid we need to have a discussion about the future of the > > > mailing lists. There are a number of issues, but the most > > > immediate is that the list archiving software is basically not up > > > to modern standards and is no longer maintained. It will need to > > > be decommissioned, and is unlikely to be immediately replaced as > > > there’s low usage for it. > > > > > > There is a broader question about the list software itself. That > > > is likely to be replaced, and the replacement would offer an > > > archiving facility, though there is no clear timescale, and at > > > the moment it’s not a high priority. > > > > > > The existing archive can be easily converted to a static one, > > > which should be able to provide a better search facility than > > > currently (e.g. Google), so that should not be lost in any case. > > > > > > So I think the options are as follows: > > > > > > 1. Move the lists to another host. JISCmail may be a possibility. > > > 2. Continue the lists and accept a gap in the archive, and hope > > > that the new hosting solution here will come sooner rather than > > > later. > > > 3. Wind up the lists after a quarter of a century, move all > > > discussion to other fora (e.g. scsynth.org), and finalise the > > > archive. > > > > > > I have my own views on this, partly for personal reasons, but I > > > would like to hear from others before I say anything. I know > > > people have strong feelings about lists vs. web fora, etc., and > > > any choice will definitely have plusses and minuses. > > > > > > Whatever happens, it’s been something of an honour looking after > > > sc-users and sc-dev for the last 13 years since we migrated them > > > in 2008. I’ve been really proud and happy that Birmingham has > > > been able to support so much amazing activity, and such a great > > > community! > > > > > > Let me know what you think, > > > > > > Scott - list admin > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ sc-users mailing list info (subscription, etc.): http://www.birmingham.ac.uk/facilities/ea-studios/research/supercollider/mailinglist.aspx archive: https://listarc.bham.ac.uk/marchives/sc-users/ search: https://listarc.bham.ac.uk/lists/sc-users/search/ |