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Re: [sc-users] Future of the lists
Thanks a lot for keeping the flame burning, Scott! I am fine with moving over to the forum, especially as there is a mailing list option there as well.
Best,
Kenneth
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On 9 Jun 2021 09:18, i@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx wrote:
>I said I would let others discuss before expressing my view. There hasn’t been
>a massive response, and I’d say no clear consensus. So, here’s my 2 cents:
>
>Firstly, the dev list: As I said, I don’t think it serves much purpose any
>more, or at least not a unique one, so I think we should wind it up and convert
>the archive to static pages.
>
>The user list is more complicated. In general I’ve been happy to keep it going
>as long as there was demand, but the technical/GDPR issues do make me wonder if
>this is a good time to just wrap it up and encourage people to move to the
>forum, which has grown a lot as the list has gotten a little quieter.
>
>On a personal level, maintaining and moderating the lists is a not
>insignificant amount of work, and I don’t have as much time for that as I used
>to. It’s also not always a pleasant job, and while that’s perhaps not
>surprising given the nature of online communications, I sometimes wonder if I
>want to keep putting energy into that, especially in those occasional moments
>when it’s bad enough to impact my own wellbeing.
>
>So on balance and with some sadness, I personally think the best thing is to
>wind the lists up and encourage people to move to the forum. There has been
>some discussion about possibly hosting the forum here at the university, which
>would be a nice bit of continuity, and maybe help with stability as it’s
>currently privately funded. We’ll see what happens with that.
>
>I do feel a sense of responsibility to this community and the list members, so
>we can hold off on making a final determination for a day or two so people can
>respond, but that’s my feeling.
>
>Thanks,
>
>Scott
>
>
>
>
>
> On 19 May 2021, at 17:09, i@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx wrote:
>
> Hi All,
>
> I’m afraid we need to have a discussion about the future of the mailing
> lists. There are a number of issues, but the most immediate is that the
> list archiving software is basically not up to modern standards and is no
> longer maintained. It will need to be decommissioned, and is unlikely to be
> immediately replaced as there’s low usage for it.
>
> There is a broader question about the list software itself. That is likely
> to be replaced, and the replacement would offer an archiving facility,
> though there is no clear timescale, and at the moment it’s not a high
> priority.
>
> The existing archive can be easily converted to a static one, which should
> be able to provide a better search facility than currently (e.g. Google),
> so that should not be lost in any case.
>
> So I think the options are as follows:
>
> 1. Move the lists to another host. JISCmail may be a possibility.
> 2. Continue the lists and accept a gap in the archive, and hope that the
> new hosting solution here will come sooner rather than later.
> 3. Wind up the lists after a quarter of a century, move all discussion to
> other fora (e.g. scsynth.org), and finalise the archive.
>
> I have my own views on this, partly for personal reasons, but I would like
> to hear from others before I say anything. I know people have strong
> feelings about lists vs. web fora, etc., and any choice will definitely
> have plusses and minuses.
>
> Whatever happens, it’s been something of an honour looking after sc-users
> and sc-dev for the last 13 years since we migrated them in 2008. I’ve been
> really proud and happy that Birmingham has been able to support so much
> amazing activity, and such a great community!
>
> Let me know what you think,
>
> Scott - list admin
>
>
>
>
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