Re: [sc-users] there's something i dont understand

["Zlatko" <zlatko@xxxxxxxxxxx>]

well, my cents:

I write everything, double that: EVERYTHING, in classes,
/except for SynthDefs recently/
apple-s apple-k is my mantra,
and It is great, because I build in a way that everything executes automatically
from Main and initClass, so three keys in one move, and I already see if everything is fine, 
this way I don't have to scroll around and execute test code..

z

> 
> 
> Right, well, the question was about abstraction options other than  
> classes, and I have such an option, so I thought I would pipe up. :)
> 
> I agree with Dan that GUI abstractions usually fall in the category  
> of what I called "utility" functionality, which is better served by  
> classes.
> 
> Another option is to test new functionality using a prototype, and  
> when the behavior is stable, convert it into a class.
> 
> Sam is right that the compiler is very fast and it only takes a  
> couple of seconds to recompile the library. The issue for me when  
> composing is that it isn't just recompiling the library. That's a  
> couple of seconds, then maybe 15 seconds to reload the GUI and  
> reconnect to MIDI, then reload buffers, mixers, source data, etc.  
> which could be up to a minute per cycle. Do that a couple hundred  
> times in a four or five-hour composing session, and it's well over an  
> hour wasted.
> 
> That's getting away from the original question but still worth  
> thinking about.
> hjh
> 
> 
> On Dec 24, 2007, at 1:13 PM, Sam Pluta wrote:
> 
> > Yeah, it seemed like the simplicity of recompiling wasn't clear to  
> > you.  I don't know how you recompile in emacs, but in OSX you just  
> > press apple-k.  Its really just two buttons and about 0.91  
> > seconds.  I do this so often that sometimes I just recompile  
> > automatically after I save automatically.  Ba da bing, ba da bang.
> >
> > Sam
> >
> > On Dec 24, 2007 12:35 PM, Dan Stowell <danstowell@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> > JH's prototyping stuff may well help you out here, as he's described.
> > But for a "big GUI application" I'd definitely recommend becoming
> > familiar with classes and using them, at least for core components.
> > For example, for some of my apps I create a class which encapsulates a
> > buffer as well as the GUI object used to manipulate it, as well as a
> > couple of other pieces of functionality.
> >
> > Yes, you have to recompile to update class definitions; but once
> > you've developed some of your core components, they will change very
> > very rarely. Classes are SC's primary abstraction method, it's
> > standard object-oriented programming, and it's very very useful.
> >
> > Dan
> >
> >
> > 2007/12/24, Vytautas Jancauskas <unaudio@xxxxxxxxx>:
> > > What options for abstraction do i have in sclang? Obviously  
> > classes but
> > > don't those only get evaluated when sclang get's started? I tried  
> > defining a
> > > class and then sending it to sclang from emacs but that didn't  
> > work. Is that
> > > possible? Functions don't really cut it for this big GUI  
> > application i am
> > > planning, so i was wondering...
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