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Re: [sc-dev] Cydia distribution of SC iPhone port



Thanks Dan, I'll give this a try and get back to you,

axel

Le 17 déc. 09 à 11:37, Dan Stowell a écrit :

Axel - I've added you the ability to add things to the file releases
section https://sourceforge.net/projects/supercollider/files/ - if you
have time maybe you could try that? I *suspect* that we could get it
working, and if so it would be by far the cleanest way of doing it.

Since cydia is based on a nice solid codebase I would imagine it can
handle HTTP redirects and suchlike. So for example URLs like this,
although they get redirected to a mirror server, should appear to
cydia like normal file downloads of files in the same folder?
http://downloads.sourceforge.net/project/supercollider/Source/3.3.1/SuperCollider-3.3-Source-linux.tar.gz
http://downloads.sourceforge.net/project/supercollider/Source/3.3.1/SuperCollider-3.3-Source.tar.gz

Notice the (pseudo)folder structure /Source/3.3.1/ which is derived
from how the file releases are arranged - if we make a section
specifically for iphone cydia content then that should appear as a
nice self-contained (pseudo)folder.

Dan


2009/12/15 Axel Balley <axel.lists@xxxxxxxxx>:
Cydia needs the URL to a directory in a webserver, that contains a
Package.bz2 file and the SuperCollider.deb file
I thought maybe we could just put those 2 files in
http://supercollider.sourceforge.net/cydia
I'm not sure how to deal with the mirrors if we use the file release system. Anyway if that doesn't turn out possible, cylob offered to host the files on
his server.

Le 15 déc. 09 à 10:37, Dan Stowell a écrit :

Sourceforge's terms say that the proper "file release system" is the
way they want us to make binaries available, so that would be better. The difficulty with that is that sourceforge uses a lot of mirrors and
redirects, so for example debian's "watch" has a little bit of magic
that automatically takes "sf.net" addresses and points them at the
right place.

It seems like cydia is based on debian packaging so perhaps this
little bit of magic might be already built in? If so that would be
great, we just upload the iphone binaries like we do the others.

Dan


2009/12/14 Axel Balley <axel.lists@xxxxxxxxx>:

Getting SC on Cydia just requires setting up a directory on an existing
http
server containing the SC deb package and a description file. Would it be
possible to put this on http://supercollider.sourceforge.net ?
Then it's just a matter of adding the URL as a source in Cydia, and we
could
serve the app along with extra patches and classes.

What do you people think ?

axel

Le 14 déc. 09 à 02:41, nonprivate a écrit :

it seems that this debate has centered on what apple does and doesn't
allow on the app store,
but maybe it could be seen like this: how exactly is apple's store
compatible with the open source "values" of supercollider?
the answer is, "not at all". so why not put iphone sc on cydia?


On 14 Dec 2009, at 01:46, Lucas Samaruga wrote:

......but, if there are security reasons maybe is possible to reduce
the scope of the sc lang to the synthesis/musical task......


2009/12/13, Lucas Samaruga <samarugalucas@xxxxxxxxx>:

Hmmm... sounds complicated from apple:
"come and develop in our beautiful platform with our beautiful tools"
"but... no that"
"nop"
"of course you have freedom"
"eh... no, that is not allowed"

well maybe I'm wishing a different social contract (the technology has
an important social impact)

thanks you
Lucas


2009/12/13, Batuhan Bozkurt <batuhan@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>:

Because Apple doesn't allow programming environments or
"interpreters" in the AppStore. I'm not sure but another issue is about the licenses I think. You would need to modify SC codebase and use it with the iPhone SDK, and since SC is GPL, you'd also need to
provide the source, but the Apple NDA won't allow it.

I still have no clue about how RjDj (PureData) circumvents these
issues, however...

Batuhan Bozkurt
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On Dec 14, 2009, at 2:05 AM, Lucas Samaruga wrote:

Hello

2009/12/13, Axel Balley <axel.lists@xxxxxxxxx>:

An application based on the interpreted language part of
SuperCollider
would most probably be rejected for App Store distribution based on
Apple's developer guidelines,

I was asking me why there is no sc app for the iphone, now my
question
is why would most probably be rejected for app store?

Regards
Lucas

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