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Re: [Sc-devel] How to make svnless Quarks work...

Hi all,

OK, the change is committed.  I ended up keeping everything confined to QuarkSVNRepository.sc.
 (I can't see why any other object would care if the LocalQuarks is svn or not and it keeps the changes confined to one file.)


PS Andrea, I know what you mean.  My recollection of the discussion is:

1. Leopard has svn, so the complications will go away soon.
2. There are significant advantages to having true version control.
3. The use of sym-links keeps management of extensions really clean


On Feb 23, 2008, at 6:42 PM, Andrea Valle wrote:

Maybe I'm saying something unpopular, but, really, just to understand better. 


1. SC is incredibly easy to extend: just put a class file in a recognized folder, then apple+K (or close and reopen)
2. the official extensions (-->quarks) are (sometimes incredibly) tricky to install.

Couldn't we have a svn for developers (like now) and just create automatically a webpage for the users mirroring the quark folder content where people download the quarks they are interested in?
With the option to download them all (as it is now, at least with the complete installer on macosx)?
Isn't it a usual situation that you go to a site to see what are the interesting extensions and download them?
Or maybe, can't we create a gui mirroring the webpage and allowing the user to download stuff from inside SC, using curl or something analogous on Windows?
In case of multiple files/folders we just need to add a global zip file of each quark, there's no need to change the svn dir.

(I think Joshua said something analogous)

Substantially maintaining +- the same quark interface but avoiding svn for users?



On 24 Feb 2008, at 00:23, James Harkins wrote:

Yep, it's the Microsoft way... identify a perfectly good way to do things, strip it of features and turn it upside down and backward just enough to be incompatible, then release it to the lowest-common-denominator consumer (who will come to believe that the degraded, compromised Windows way is the *right* way and that every other OS is wrong). I hate them.

The issue with Windows shortcuts is logged on the tracker -- http://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detail&aid=1870525&group_id=54622&atid=474248 -- once that is fixed then Quarks could create shortcuts instead of symlinks.


On Feb 23, 2008, at 6:03 PM, felix wrote:

1. fuck windows and the horse they rode in on
2. just copy the whole folder

On Sat, Feb 23, 2008 at 11:56 PM, James Harkins <jamshark70@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

We can't support Windows yet. Windows doesn't have POSIX-compliant symlinks, and Windows shortcuts to files/directories don't work for library compilation.

: H. James Harkins

"Come said the Muse,
Sing me a song no poet has yet chanted,
Sing me the universal."  -- Whitman

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Andrea Valle
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