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Re: [sc-dev] SC3e - SuperCollider embedded

I think this has been an interesting conversation... and of course, the idea of an scserver in every wireless pocket seems very cool... but for many of the purposes mentioned here (interactive interfaces, auditory feedback), it doesn't seem so much like the wrong end of the stick, but it seems like this would be using the trunk of a redwood tree where a stick may do... The trick is finding what the stick is... scserver is extremely light-weight in terms of what can be done with it as a synthesis and RT sound tool... but probably a little heavy handed for what is mentioned so far... no?

Rather then re-writing all of SC, perhaps what needs to be done is, look at why you want a synthesis engine on these devices, then design something that fits those needs... You'll never get 1000 grains per second of anything really interesting off the iPods available now or probably for the near future, much less a cell phone, but the things mentioned here can be done with a much lighter (and probably simpler project) then a redesign of scserver.


On Oct 21, 2006, at 5:49 AM, kernel wrote:

i see. it would be useful for people with poor eyesight too. so supercollider would become the standard sound server for that device with a common interface available to any application running on that device? for example, many years ago if you wanted to make sound on a commodore 64 you had to use the SID chip.

i don't know what the standard way of making sound on a mobile phone is but mine has something like a very simple GM MIDI set and sample playback facilities. don't think it does granular synthesis though.

wrong end of stick or wrong stick entirely? :)


On 21 Oct 2006, at 12:31, Christopher Frauenberger wrote:

Not sure about your end of that stick, this one appears to have more than two.

What I meant was that one could use SC server to create auditory or multi-modal displays for a wide range of devices. Say you want to use your mp3 player while skating in a city and you cannot look at that damn little screen without killing some innocent pedestrians or stopping. Imagine you could interact with it only by auditory feedback (and this is by no means just speech or beeps) without turning your eye away from whatever you are doing. Cool, right?


On 21 Oct 2006, at 11:57, kernel wrote:

right, on a mobile phone you want to implement SC server so it can be accessed by all apps running on the phone? you could then have little music sequencers and stuff running on the phone and make use of all the number pad buttons for the UI.

would be quite something.... but have i got the wrong end of the stick?

On 21 Oct 2006, at 09:31, Christopher Frauenberger wrote:

On 20 Oct 2006, at 19:58, kernel wrote:

On 20 Oct 2006, at 10:20, Dan Stowell wrote:

If you're willing to do that for SC I'll buy you many drinks!

and i'll chip in with the alka seltzer

With so much encouragement I really feel tempted...

I am aware of the implications and as I said I am just thinking aloud without having done much research into it. However, the motivation behind it is not so much to have SuperCollider on mobile devices as a toy that plays music (the ipod does a fairly good job in that without SC), but as a sound synthesiser that could enrich the user interaction with such devices. Having more than polyphonic ring tones on mobiles would open some possibilities in the design, wouldnt it?

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